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[Shale ♠]

...well, get in line!

Hey-o, all, it's everyone's favorite neighborhood sourpuss here. What do I want, you ask? What makes you think I want any--- alright, fine, we've got some epically awesome plots waiting in the wings, but we'd like a bit of input from you guys before we finalize them and give them a push into the mainstream, as you will. What do you guys wanna see? As PRE's members, what happens is largely up to you. We, as staff, are just here to get things rolling and keep them moving along, so we want to know what you'd like to see.

As many of you have noticed, PRE is changing. Most people see this as a sign of 'the end,' death on a pale horse coming to dash PRE beneath his hooves. Those of us on staff, however, see this as a second chance, as a new beginning, a chance to mold the site into whatever you guys want it to be. New or old, we want to hear from you. PRE is first, and foremost, a community and, from here on out, we will be functioning as such, so post your ideas and desires below (or send them to either myself,Kane, or Crash if you're looking to a bit of secret scheming), and we'll do our best to integrate your ideas into the PRE-verse.

[ryder]

Well, I would like to see the Pro-Isshu movement come back to life. Maybe have the whole thing ran by the top trainer of each city/town who want to keep Unova the way it is as the official "leaders" of the movement? causeIwanttogetSkyelaroutthereandgetherimportantcausesheworksbestthatway

Anyways...I just think it was a really good plot idea that never really happened. When I first joined I saw it and thought it was a grand idea that never took off. It's just a thought, but these trainers could be the ones who Nox and Lux need to try to win over the most in order to take the region in "their name". I honestly think that this was just a plot that was never capitalized on the way it should have been, could have lead to a lot of great plots and ideas for the somewhat quiet region. Hell, I'll start this up myself if you would like

Oh, and also, I would love to see a plot that involves Silver getting a little more involved in the war than he would like. One, torturing Silver like that and making his mind all conflicted would be fun Two, I would love to see an epic battle happening that Lux is winning and then have a "AND SUDDENLY SILVER!" moment just for lulz. Finally, I just wana be involved in something big ;-;

[Shale ♠]

Rest assured, the Pro-Isshu movement hasn't died, it's simply under new, quieter, and slightly shadier management, so to speak. A certain someone -jerks a thumb in Jacobi's direction- is taking it a step further and working toward the creation of The Democratic Republic of Isshu (but more about that later, as it's one of the bigger things that will be launching in the next few weeks). For all those looking to get involved in the chat for finalizing said plot, shoot me a note letting me know you're interested and attach a few ideas.

For now, I will say only this: What's being planned is likely to set a bee in the bonnets of those who have no interest in suing for peace and, in addition to this, it will open up quite a few new positions, conflicts, and chances for assassination plots.

As for having a SUDDENLY SILVER moment. I'll just say that there may well be a chance for something like that at some point. A-yup. Everyone here can be involved in the upcoming plots if they so choose (in fact we encourage you all to get involved in some way or another when the launch!). We'll be looking for folks who want to push major changes through and those who wish to stop them (among other things).

Anywho, thanks for taking the time to fill this out and let us know what you're interesting in seeing/doing. I do hope others will follow your example.

[jaymes]

Pro-Isshu stuff, yes please. I agree that after Lurker left and Juni died it was never completely worked through, so if that got a revival Fennel would definitely be apart of it.

Change in the war structure or advancement in the war. I feel like every month it's the same thing, some form of battle for a territory that ends around three months later. I think maybe there needs to be a time-skip or NPC characters affect certain cities and so there is some plot movement instead of one city changing hands every couple of weeks. It needs to have a new, original vibe that would maybe stir up mini-plots, too.

[Leaf]

Let's have a big ethical issue pls.

IDK, something political that is not a gigantic explosion.

[abyss]

Mar 5, 2013 0:42:49 GMT -5 Leaf said:

Let's have a big ethical issue pls.

IDK, something political that is not a gigantic explosion.

im for this
no more dropping freaking bombs pls
besides, as far as I know that research halted in its entirety and actually shut down

also on the unova stuff - Hugh will be making headway in that shortly when he gets sucked into the war and sort of..yeah, no spoilers for you. Also with Isabel as the Boss of Black City that's a potential gateway for a more "underground" society to weasel their way into Unova's ~pretty~ and not-ruffian (normally) society as well as bring people seeking aid in the war to Unova for either financial or resource support through her, that will bring stormclouds to the region I'm sure, if not open the gateway to fighting over it.

[echo]

Mar 5, 2013 9:31:33 GMT -5 abyss said:

Mar 5, 2013 0:42:49 GMT -5 Leaf said:

Let's have a big ethical issue pls.

IDK, something political that is not a gigantic explosion.

im for this
no more dropping freaking bombs pls
besides, as far as I know that research halted in its entirety and actually shut down

also on the unova stuff - Hugh will be making headway in that shortly when he gets sucked into the war and sort of..yeah, no spoilers for you. Also with Isabel as the Boss of Black City that's a potential gateway for a more "underground" society to weasel their way into Unova's ~pretty~ and not-ruffian (normally) society as well as bring people seeking aid in the war to Unova for either financial or resource support through her, that will bring stormclouds to the region I'm sure, if not open the gateway to fighting over it.

By underground are you thinking something like what was in Orre with that one city Duking ran lol I forget the name.

Id love ethical issues to arise like maybe chemical weapons research, torture, corruption, child labor or prostitution or what have you. Hey maybe something like what happened in Unova with the anti-trainer mentality such as maybe a pro-something and anti-something or 2 pros like the prolife pro choice thing.

Wow I rambled today. Anyway secret Pokemon experiments or human experiments or corruption all sound fun. Also anything with a cult I'm game for. I love me some cults.

[abyss]

sinnoh church conflict deal .. sorta. they don't necessarily get along.
goldenrod cult

and cipher's sorta more active now than not, so I suppose they could start running pokemon experiments and transferring the research to human experiments either under Lux's nose or under the lead of a non-cipher Lux person that's like of Officer rank or higher. that could work.

[crest2]

Mar 5, 2013 10:02:23 GMT -5 @echo said:

Id love ethical issues to arise like maybe chemical weapons research, torture, corruption, child labor or prostitution or what have you. Hey maybe something like what happened in Unova with the anti-trainer mentality such as maybe a pro-something and anti-something or 2 pros like the prolife pro choice thing.

Lou and I had a big plot about that. Crashie was sorta in it too. The idea was that Danny here (as well as Jimmy) were going to die, making Kanto Lux look absolutely terrible, because they killed kids. That was the entire point of the MOTHER EARTH program. I might continue it and kill Danny off at some point, because that'll provide some debate and such. It's not only wrong for Lux to kill these kids, but Nox wasn't paying them, and they weren't volunteering. Nox "hired" them, but only offered them shelter, food, and water. And not much of it.

So there's something that we could build upon. I want to see more technological advances. I think by now, Nox should have come up with some sort of weapons that are more advanced, or gained more resources to use. It seems that neither team has created more weapons or tactics. I'd also like to see some more IC strategizing!!!! Kane and I are doing it with Ruby and Alyssa. I think people should be talking about battles before they happen. That way, it won't be so terribly random.

[balendin]

The idea was that Danny here (as well as Jimmy) were going to die, making Kanto Lux look absolutely terrible, because they killed kids.

What's the big deal with killing kids? This is the pokemon world. Kids are very active in the world. Both factions field child soldiers. I imagine both sides have killed tons of kids throughout the war.

[binky]

Mar 5, 2013 21:18:46 GMT -5 balendin said:

The idea was that Danny here (as well as Jimmy) were going to die, making Kanto Lux look absolutely terrible, because they killed kids.

What's the big deal with killing kids? This is the pokemon world. Kids are very active in the world. Both factions field child soldiers. I imagine both sides have killed tons of kids throughout the war.

I agree very much with your point, Bale, but I think at this point the setting's been perceived too much alike with the real world. Nothing's really been established about a Pokemon setting so interpretation has been widely varied across PRE.

In the Pokemon world, I imagine child labor to be a day-to-day cultural criticism in the Pokemon society considering the amount of youth in occupation. (But then again, it depends what definition of child labor we're trying to take on.)

[crest2]

Mar 5, 2013 21:18:46 GMT -5 balendin said:

The idea was that Danny here (as well as Jimmy) were going to die, making Kanto Lux look absolutely terrible, because they killed kids.

What's the big deal with killing kids? This is the pokemon world. Kids are very active in the world. Both factions field child soldiers. I imagine both sides have killed tons of kids throughout the war.

Yes, there isn't a big deal about killing kids in the Pokemon World. The argument was meant to be completely irrational. Nox chose kids because they're manipulatable and they can turn the children's death against Lux (even though, as said before, it's not reasonable.) This makes it completely debatable and fair for Lux and Nox to debate over this. I'm sort of new and not involved with Lux yet, so I don't really now about them completely. But I've threaded with Tikva's Jaren, a lux speaker, who made a point in saying “Pokemon trainers are at the top peak of society already. The most successful trainers earn more than any doctor." Which means children are capable of holding the highest political status. Lux (from what I read) wants to change that, it's part of their many plans and ideals. The debate was originally to try and get a negative outlook an Lux to the people, but it could easily turn into a debate about the economy and trainers. Why are trainers regarded highly?

I see it as more of a "self employment" job. I'm only 16, but I'm an actor, meaning that I'm self-employed. I personally believe training would be like that too, meaning some fail, make a living, or get rich. Training pokemon is probably similar, a champion/frontier brain/elite four/gym leader makes as money as a doctor. I just think that Lux might believe that the trainer status compared to others is wrong.

Another thing: these kids are thirteen. Which means seventh or eighth grade, usually. Yeah, a lot of soldiers die, but I doubt that the death of a thirteen year old (or anyone younger) has ever happened on PRE, or been spoken of ICly.

[Leaf]

On another note, Nox just took Seafoam and so, what has Lux been doing in there? What can Nox pick up where they left off and how nasty is it?

Also, Johto champion just vanished and he was the major force behind brokering peace iirc. Where does that leave the situation with Olivine and Cianwood?