Kalos Suggestions

[Hunter]

I haven't seen anyone make a thread about this topic, so here we go...

With Generation 6 fast approaching, I now is as good of a time as any to make a thread where everyone can make their own suggestions about what to do regarding Kalos and Gen 6. The topic can be about, what side is Kalos on, how much influence to they have, etc.

On that note here's my suggestion about what to do regarding what side Kalos is on:

With all of the crap that the staff has gone through with opening this site back up, and now having to deal with being blindsided by v5, I think they deserve a break from having to think up anything really major in terms of plotting for this region. Ergo, I suggest that when Gen 6 finally arrives, that Kalos should simply join the republic, with two cities breaking off and joining the other factions (one Lux, and one Nox), so that Kalos won't simply be a carbon copy of Unova in terms of alignment. I think that this would also spur the development of some members to make republic character because we have so few of them right now compared to the other two factions (guilty as charged).

Well, that's my boring suggestion. Have at it everyone!

[LANCE]

We had a skype conversation about this....I think we decided on Kalos being a mostly lux-dominated region with about 1/4 of it being run by Nox/The Republic. As of now, Lux has the most money and resources, and Kalos is supposedly a far off region like Unova, so Lux would be able to reach it first. It's basically split into two as of now, with separate governments and separate cultures depending on where you are.

Lux got to Kalos first, meaning they earned respect and trust, so they currently have more territory there. Of course, it can all change. There's a lot of time between now and October for more things to develop.

[Mehrrio | 0731 6160 9894]

Personally, I like what Hunter said more. Most of it would be Neutral/Republic/Untamed & Unaligned territory, and I don't think they'd be so quick to jump into Lux's grasp unless they were threatened with heavy destruction across their lands or whatever.

[crest refuses to log in]

Yeah, guys, Crash changed the plans for Kalos. We decided that it'd be split into three instead....The REPUBLIC gained Kalos's trust first, and has walls protecting the center of Kalos, on both sides (they control the middle of the region, the biggest chunk.) Lux and Nox are on the west and east side of these walls respectively, and the region is at a stalemate. Nox and Lux cannot attack eachother because of the vast Republic territory dividing them.

Here's our skypechat about Kalos:

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{SKYPE LOG}
[8/17/13 8:33:27 PM] Super Crest: do you have a minute?
[8/17/13 8:34:05 PM] Joseph: Of course
[8/17/13 8:34:15 PM] Super Crest: I was wondering if we could try and come up with a firm idea for Kalos
[8/17/13 8:35:06 PM] Super Crest: (mine seemed like a very logical way of incorporating it, but garth's idea sounds REALLY cool because the republic doesn't have much territory)
[8/17/13 8:35:18 PM] Super Crest: maybe we can combine a few ideas somehow?
[8/17/13 8:36:01 PM] Joseph: Lux has a significant embassy and is in a much better position for diplomatic talks, Nox has a few strongholds supportig it and a few grassroots movements, but the majority of the nation is Republic-aligned?
[8/17/13 8:36:14 PM] Super Crest: yeah, that sounds cool
[8/17/13 8:36:26 PM] Super Crest: I was thinking we could just swap the republic and lux in my plot
[8/17/13 8:36:33 PM] Super Crest: the republic got there first, etc.
[8/17/13 8:37:04 PM] Super Crest: so the region is basically split into three, with seperate lifestyles/governments/cultures in each part
[8/17/13 8:37:35 PM] Super Crest: the biggest section is republic-dominated, which might be the center of the region/the place with the bigger cities, etc.
[8/17/13 8:38:04 PM] Super Crest: and nox controls north-west areas, while lux has south-east
[8/17/13 8:38:07 PM] Joseph: . . . Motherfuck
[8/17/13 8:38:08 PM] Joseph: You're right
[8/17/13 8:38:10 PM] Joseph: Kalos is split in 3 anyway!
[8/17/13 8:38:24 PM] Joseph: This is a perfect opportunity staring us right in the face!
[8/17/13 8:38:33 PM] Super Crest: so nox and lux can't fight/start war
[8/17/13 8:38:43 PM] Super Crest: because the republic lands are in between them
[8/17/13 8:39:00 PM] Super Crest: and the republic has built walls, etc. to protect themselves?
[8/17/13 8:39:10 PM] Joseph: Shingeki No Kalos

[Mehrrio | 0731 6160 9894]

I really don't think that'd be any sort of smart in the long run, given the moods and stability of the Kalosian people and invading with a war that should be restricted to the mainlands. With Hunter's idea, there'd be at least some footholds to go on where they can interact, and have a bit of politicking instead of murder. And, if I can add, what makes you think Kalos would want anything to do with this war? What's to stop them from shoving you out and making you stay out? If anything, they'd actively object to any side except The Republic. And IF the Republic is as corrupt as you make it, they'd probably shove them out too.

[Varnock]

So I'm reading through this and my worries stand at what Lux and Nox would do to a republic caught between them and their views. I can't speak for anyone but myself here, but in my eyes it looks like it's a 'You aren't helping so you're hurting' situation that would put the republic, and Kalos, into a melting pot of doom and gloom.

Personally I would love to see another region that requires political takeovers rather than wars. The Castelia Debate was great fun, and this way we don't have to try to shunt ourselves into Republic territory. After all, the Republic is pretty shaky right now anyways right? If Lux, Nox, or BOTH managed to look at them and see an enemy things would end very badly very quickly.

[nedra]

Isn't the republic a uniqutely unovan thing? I like the idea o that staying unovan.

As to the new region, this could be a great time to get member input, no? How bout a place for all members to put up their ideas for Kalos, and then a vote?

[RUBY]

I'd much prefer a vote at this point, as it seems like people have a lot of different ideas that I'm sure would all be great.

Tik- The Republic was uniquely Unovan, but uhh...I've heard from Crash that it should be spreading, or else it won't have much influence over the war. It really would be better for it to grow, I think? I dunno, you'd have to ask Shale about that. She leads the Republic with Jacobi.

Mehrrio, Varnock- The Republic isn't entirely corrupt. (We were planning on having Team Flare be corrupt republicans, yes, but the Republic itself is no more corrupt than Lux or Nox.) And Kalos probably doesn't want anything to do with this war...but if they didn't choose a side, Kalos would become a battlefield for Lux and Nox. Plus, this is a war site. We have one peaceful region already, so why have another? The point of having Lux and Nox separated in Kalos was that it would bring a TON of tension in to that region. Lux and Nox would be at a stalemate-they can attack millions of innocent people behind the Republic's walls (to fight each other), or they can just wait and plot, trying to destroy this "Republic" from the inside out. Lux and Nox are very violent sometimes, but I SERIOUSLY doubt they'd kill that many innocent people...if Lux killed millions of innocent citizens, how many people do you think would align themselves with Nox afterwards? It would be very, very bad for them in the long run.

It sounds like a lot of you want a 100% Republic dominated Kalos Region...But I don't think that would offer much, honestly. The reason Unova's peace was such a good plot was because it happen GRADUALLY, and having all three factions in the region allows such a plot again. The Republic's goal in the region could be to get it entirely peaceful, and who knows? Maybe they could get it done. The beauty of adding a new region is DEVELOPING it, not just having it be the way you want in the beginning.

(Also: it really shouldn't be an unaligned region. It would be DEMOLISHED by Lux and Nox, as they'd constantly be squabbling over who should get it. It should really have already decided who it aligns itself with.)

[Hunter]

I was only proposing that Kalos initially align itself with the Republic, leaving the possibility open that it (or parts of it) could gradually change sides over time. Again, my reasoning was that doing so would be simple and would give the admins a little bit of a break from all of the crap that they've been blindsided with lately.

[RUBY]

Ergo, I suggest that when Gen 6 finally arrives, that Kalos should simply join the republic, with two cities breaking off and joining the other factions (one Lux, and one Nox), so that Kalos won't simply be a carbon copy of Unova in terms of alignment.

But upon making it entirely-Republic aligned, you WOULD be making a carbon copy of Unova.

That was basically our solution to this issue. Nox and Lux have little corners of Kalos, and the Republic has (by far) the largest chunk. This leaves room for war plots and for peace plots.

[Hunter]

Aug 20, 2013 21:43:51 GMT -5 RUBY said:

Ergo, I suggest that when Gen 6 finally arrives, that Kalos should simply join the republic, with two cities breaking off and joining the other factions (one Lux, and one Nox), so that Kalos won't simply be a carbon copy of Unova in terms of alignment.

But upon making it entirely-Republic aligned, you WOULD be making a carbon copy of Unova.

That was basically our solution to this issue. Nox and Lux have little corners of Kalos, and the Republic has (by far) the largest chunk. This leaves room for war plots and for peace plots.

I never suggested making it entirely republic.

[RUBY]

Aug 20, 2013 21:41:15 GMT -5 Hunter said:

I was only proposing that Kalos initially align itself with the Republic, leaving the possibility open that it (or parts of it) could gradually change sides over time. Again, my reasoning was that doing so would be simple and would give the admins a little bit of a break from all of the crap that they've been blindsided with lately.

I read that like you meant 100% aligned with only the Republic...did you, or did you mean the majority of Kalos was aligned with the Republic?

[Hunter]

Aug 20, 2013 21:48:45 GMT -5 RUBY said:

Aug 20, 2013 21:41:15 GMT -5 Hunter said:

I was only proposing that Kalos initially align itself with the Republic, leaving the possibility open that it (or parts of it) could gradually change sides over time. Again, my reasoning was that doing so would be simple and would give the admins a little bit of a break from all of the crap that they've been blindsided with lately.

I read that like you meant 100% aligned with only the Republic...did you, or did you mean the majority of Kalos was aligned with the Republic?

My apologies, I meant the majority of Kalos.

[Phobos]

While I do agree the Republic would probably have the quickest communications with Kalos I also don't think making it 100% Republic-aligned would be very interesting.

As for the Republic growing and spreading, while it is primarily based in Unova, its ideals and beliefs can certainly spread as well. I can easily see other regions and ideologies who want to remain untouched by Nox and Lux falling under their banner. Even if they are Republic-aligned, it'd probably through ideals and influence rather than "Kalos is part of Unova now."

However, I agree: a vote is the best option here. I'll make the poll sometime tomorrow, so you can all run wild on it while I'm at orientation.

[RUBY]

Aug 20, 2013 21:55:24 GMT -5 GLORIANA said:

Okay here's my two-cents:

holy shit da game hasn't even been released, we basically know nothing about it except that we can sit on benches. we don't even know half the pokemon that are gonna be in this; the gyms, the cities, the extra locales. nothing really about this new team's deal. who the big kahunas are. how the fuck hoard battles work. questions. we have lots of questions.

My point: we don't know anything buildable.

So maybe we need to take a step back from this, cool ourselves y'know? Chill. Especially when arguing politics over a secret unleashed game that hasn't given us a sandbox to play in yet. :3

I second this 1,000% percent. Sorry everyone, this got really out of hand. Some people were chatting on Skype, and we were trying to come up with an idea that was flexible to whatever GameFreak threw at us. It was really just meant to be a guideline at most, and it's become more than that. We have about two more months until these games come out- everything could change. We really don't know anything about these games, which means we should come up with some VERY loose guideline, to help us when the game comes out.