ABOUT BW2

[lou]

The staff is currently not quite sure what to do about BW2. The missions are clearly not working, and frankly, we're not sure if they're even worth it. Our thoughts were to just bring in the canons, though obviously the events of BW2 are not canon and thus the BW2 canons (bar Colress) will probably be demoted to normal trainers.

Also because playing out BW2 would involve the Harmonia canons getting legendaries (Reshiram for N and Kyurem for Ghetsis), we're not quite sure if we want to bother with that route, either.

So, members of PRE, what are your thoughts?

[nedra]

Why don't we le everyone suggest alternate ideas for how to bring in the chars / how things should be changed for bw2 and we can vote on those? That way we can do something but it won't be legendaries?

[lou]

That's what this thread is for.

I just threw out the staff ideas already. So come on, idea people, make ideas!!!!

[creamsicles2]

Feb 8, 2013 21:14:42 GMT -5 @lou said:

Our thoughts were to just bring in the canons, though obviously the events of BW2 are not canon and thus the BW2 canons (bar Colress) will probably be demoted to normal trainers.

What? It's not?

[RUBY]

Playing it out would be just like the missions, as people (most, unfortunately) cannot commit to something like that, and it would eventually fall apart.

I do believe that the canons+canon events should be in play soon, and timeskips seem like the most logical way to do this, but we all know that although that is a good idea, it probably won't be happening very soon, as there are important plots taking place. Maybe you could just put them in play, and say the events occurred? Ghetsis isn't taken (at least I don't think he is....) and that makes N the only one affected. And that poses a problem. N is an important figure and i don't think it's right to just have this history "appear" for him. Maybe we can fuddle the BW2 history a bit? I feel like that is a good option to get the BW2 canon integrated. I don't know how you'd change it, but maybe that would help.

[lou]

The site was created before BW2, and thus by timeline standards, the war started after the events of BW. Also, no one playing BW canons at the time wanted to just retcon in BW2 as having happened, since that would mean acknowledging a whole new other wave of events as well as Alder no longer being champion.

So it was decided that BW2 didn't happen in our timeline, especially considering that BW was shortly before the war started and likely why Isshu didn't jump in on the Lux train-- they had Plasma to worry about.

If we had incorporated BW2 as a retconned-in thing, we'd already have the locations and canons.

[redd]

Feb 8, 2013 21:27:36 GMT -5 @creamsicles2 said:

Feb 8, 2013 21:14:42 GMT -5 @lou said:

Our thoughts were to just bring in the canons, though obviously the events of BW2 are not canon and thus the BW2 canons (bar Colress) will probably be demoted to normal trainers.

What? It's not?

No, iirc PRE's setting starts right after BW. BW2 wasn't even out when it started, so it wasn't put into PRE's canon.

Of course, correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: oops too late ;;

[thanatos]

if the events of BW2 were made Canon, Plasma would suddenly become mucho importante and then be spontaneously defeated, 2 years would be skipped, etc. personally I'd be willing to RP out some of BW2's storyline for better integration of the characters/just for the sake of plots but I know lots of people aren't willing to dedicate the time, especially since there's a war going on. So far it's been discussed for the BW2 history to be fuddled - for instance, maybe not introduce certain areas and say the mains are all from another place, and not introduce other locations either. or think of some reason for them suddenly appearing into play, etc.

EDIT man you people write fast - and yeah, PRE was started like very soon after BW was released and there was know way of knowing that BW2 would happen.

[Leaf]

I have not played BW2 and probably will not for quite some time.

So I'ma sit this out. :T

[navitas]

I agree with Kane mostly. Let the canons and a few of the places become available but keep the events out of it. Heck we could have one of the factions build those cities if ya want in an attempt to gain influence Moose if I know how we would decide that. Of course all of that is easier if we consider the canons as noncanon on pre-terms, that way it is easier to alter the canon. Though I don't know, it doesn't sound right to have the heroes born in a different city (Then again just because they come from someplace doesn't mean they were born there).